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were going to be a great nation in the high tech world that he foresaw. approaching in the 1950's and 1960's. so he had an extraordinary impact on american life. >> watch "after words" sunday night at 9:00 eastern on c-span2's book tv. >> oversea, british home secretary amber rudd delivered a statement on president trump's retweets of the group britain first. several members raised concerns about the president and questioned prime minister theresa may's decision to invite him for a state visit to the united kingdom. a date for that has not yet been set. we'll first show you ms. rudd's statement on president trump's tweets, followed by a discussion from today's "washington journal" on british prime minister theresa may's reaction
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to president trump sharing the anti-muslim tweets. >> i thought parliament would want to express support for the victims. online hate speech and inflammatory hate content by the president of the united states, donald trump. britain first is an extremist organization which seeks to divide communities through the use of hateful narratives that spread lies and stokes tensions. the leader of britain first is overct to a criminal trial
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the alleged to distribution of leaflets and the posting of online material. overwhelmingly reject the president's record of the far right, which is the antithesis of the values this country cherishes, we will stand with them in doing so. this is why we launched our extremism strategy in 2015. speak clearhould that this government will not tolerate any group's who spread -- any groups who spread hate and who raise community fears and tensions. and we are being clear. president donald trump was wrong to retweet videos posted by far right group written first -- britain first. at the wider
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picture, the relationship between the u.k. and america, though i know how valuable the relationship is, i can tell the the importance of the relationship between our countries, the unparalleled sharing of intelligence between our countries is vital. it has undoubtedly saved british lives. there is a figure picture here and i would urge people to remember that -- there is a bigger picture here and i would urge people to remember that. >> the last time i raised after sexist and racist behavior, president trump should not be afforded addressing both houses of parliament. the extraordinary events we have seen undoubtedly underline why members across this house were right to make that call about
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a stateng here and why visit shouldn't now go ahead. clear.lso be this is the president of the united states, sharing with from a tour, -- seeking to spread hatred. by sharing it, he is either a unthinking,mpetent, or all three. can you explain what the
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government is doing to crack down on the activities of britain first and explain why britain first has not been prescribed in the way that national action has been. given the last 24 hours and the prime attack by the minister, can she confirm if the prime minister and the president have spoken? the foreign secretary heaped praise on the president, saying , send theated to them ambassador to express his concerns? code indoors men's have any prejudicial impact? is the home secretary aware that she posted a video last night personally urge going -- urging the president to keep her out of president? can the home secretary confirm takeshe and -- will
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action? by speaker, let me conclude emphasizing that i love america and americans. my true grandfather was an merican g.i. i traveled the length and breadth of 25 of the united states and it is a country and a people of extra nerve generosity. but this represents none of those things. in one of his last speeches, the great republican and protector a friend ofnd britain dwight d. eisenhower said down the long lane of history, america knows that this world of ours, ever growing smaller, must avoid the coming a community of dreadful fear and hate and instead be a proud confederation of mutual trust and respect. as we stand in the shadow of our fallen colleague joe cox, we have more words in common. we must all take a stand against
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hatred, from wherever it comes, otherwise we will slip into the darkness. >> just before i asked the home secretary to respond along the of sound, procedural advice, i think i ought to say this to the house. jade at clemson, as just referenced by the on terminal -- the honorable gentleman, awaiting trial. i think members will be conscious, while giving vent to their views, and they should and that it the importance could be prejudicial to criminal proceedings. you, mr. speaker and thank you for your guidance.
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i share his views about america. i also love that country, having worked there for a year, and i e in the mutual trust we have with americans, the effort they make to work with us, our shared values with the american people, and the way that their work has been so important in helping us with intelligence matters. he asked particularly what we have done about online, social media, extremism of various sorts. we have taken it extremely seriously, which is why i prescribed national action to be prescribed in this way, as a terrorist organization. he asks about other organizations to be prescribed. meritsvery careful what
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prescription or not. he may have a different view. but in the letter of the law that we abide by, we have to be very clear where members or activists embarq on actions that are or are not illegal -- not legal. whatst keep under review other organizations may be prescribed. doinged what else we were with online companies to make sure the internet is free of material, and he will no doubt know that the u.k. has been leading in this area. the prime minister has called for more action. we called in the wake of attacks a global call against terrorism. the internet companies are action. twitter now takes down 95% of
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the illegal material for using artificial intelligence. the fact that they are now engaging in machine learning is incredibly involvement -- incredibly important investment to make sure that morris taken down. we are not -- more is taken down. we are not complacent. we know that more needs to be done. he asked about the prime minister, whether she had spoken to the president. will alwaysnister have regular calls with the president, and she has been an explicit in criticizing this tweet. i know she will always make sure that she calls it out where she sees it, and that is what she has done here. bottomley.r concentrate on the wrong that was done by the .riginal tweet identifying putting down, putting out religious extremes.
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friend.nk my honorable it is essential that we have a fair approach to all types of extremism. we always make sure that far right extremism is treated just as harshly as it should be, as any radical islamic terrorism, 25% of the roles to the program are in fact on the far right side. >> the home secretary will appreciate that, on this side of the house, we believe the united states is our most important ally. we anticipate any british government will want to work closely with the united states
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on issues of mutual concern. and we bow to no one in our section and respect for the american people. but on the question of the online activities of the 45th president, does the home that the factpt that the 45th president chose to britainmaterial from first is not just offensive to of muslimeople dissent, not only offensive to british people of african descent, but it is offensive to all british people, and an attack on the values of this country. so whilst on this side of the house we appreciate the
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weortance of realpolitik, would also call on the product -- on the government to make clear that, in no way and in no whatsoeverit give racial views. else would be an affront to voters in this country, whichever side of the house they support. >> i think the honorable lady. we have been very clear that donald was wrong in re-tweeting
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videos by of britain first. we will continue to speak freely and frankly when it takes place. >> i hope the prime minister's comments will have some impact on the president. it is interesting to note the
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advice regarding twitter accounts. i'm sure many of us share his view. >> we respect absolutely the office of the president of the united states, a fantastic country and ally. weedingeding -- reach eting racisttwe messages -- what does he need to say or tweet they for a state visit is ditched once and for all? >> an invitation for the visit has been a standard. and accepted good that the dates
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and the arrangements have yet to be agreed. >> local authorities do have an important role to play. we have a knack of engagement that allows us to ,upport community organization really embedded in the local area that can engage with local groups and provide safeguards, particularly young men and women who may become radicalized. to then important part way we look after our communities in this country. we agree on the importance of u.s..lationship with the
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our people have stood together against far right extremism and islamist extremism. we cannot pander now. britain first gets its sucker from spreading its extremism online yard and the -- online. and the president of the united states has just given it a rocket boost. the new battle for democracy is being fought. the prime minister has rightfully challenged putin's russia. routeter what diplomatic we find to do it, we cannot simply rollout a red carpet and give a platform for the president of the united states to also sow discord in our communities. to dow he will continue this and keep spreading
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extremism. plaquesknow, from the behind us and history, where the spread of extremism leads. unless enough of us are prepared to stand up and say no. .> we do stand up to extremism we stand up to it in our own communities and, as the prime and easter has, what she criticized the president. in terms of trying to clean up the online community, the honorable lady is right, online is where the battle takes place. why our relationship with the u.s. is so important. after the first terror attack in march, we got u.k. representatives coming. only with the support of the u.s. did we get the global set
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up. they are in san francisco and able to work with the higher ups in our u.s. friends. i would urge her to bear that in mind. >> about a month ago, the most apular man in the world was man who unplugged the twitter account of the united's -- of the president of the united states. inshould have no hesitance taking it down as it would anyone else in the world who pedals such hate crimes. >> the chief executive of twitter will have heard the interesting suggestions from my honorable friend and we will leave it to them. clear, on the basis of what we already know about this mere words areat
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not enough. action is needed. three people on this side of the house is enough to cancel the state visit. action is needed now, not a slap on the wrist. canceled the state visit. the statecancel visit. >> i can only repeat what i have said before. the invitation has been extended and accepted and we have yet to make the arrangements. >> isn't it irony that the united states president retweeted fake news. there are millions who have never heard of written first and this has give them huge oxygen. , we are together as a
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community and the president was stupid in what he did. importantes such an point. we need to reassure our communities that the sort of hate promoted by britain first is alien to us. if we look at the response, not only the tragic death of joke caulks, but the terrorist attacks this year, we saw our communities coming together, refusing to be decided, and making sure to show that to be the case in our neighborhoods as well as the [indiscernible] >> how would you respond if similar tweets by trump were made by a muslim leader promoting hatred? would they be allowed in the u.k.? the honorable gentleman
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should not rush to that conclusion. havehope he has heard, i been clear that we take an evenhanded approach to extremisms and to any --any sort them right wing of any sort. extremism and action is just as hateful and dangerous as any islamic radical act. can she look at us -- at encouraging internet companies to make sure twitter accounts and facebook accounts are clearly identified as individuals but also the organizations that they
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represent. because people think that this is a general view of the british people and it is not. >> it is a very good point. we have to be careful. we have to be careful not to let this conversation about a hate filled group to feel some interest in a group which we want to make sure does not represent written, does not -- represent britain, does not represent our values. it is an interesting point that we should all act on. >> hate breeds hate. an attack on the muslim community is an act on us all. by giving a platform to britain first, donald trump is now actively sowing seeds of hatred in our country. when the number of hate crimes are increasing in
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our country, what action will the secretary take to mitigate the horrific actions the president has taken yesterday? as she knows, i think, we take all forms of hate crime seriously. thelways encourage community to report them when it takes place. critically, we have a role to make sure the online companies and do more to make sure that it is taken down, to make sure the reports we have had from state news don't take place and do more to help us identify who has been promoting some of this hateful information. government, on the foot tor -- front engage with the internet companies and make sure the
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material is taken down. >> we all condemn and feel disgusted by the hate speech propagated by mr. trump and others. does she agree with me that the danger is they cloak their hateful activities behind a cloak of fluffiness? they sometimes will talk about remembrance day and they do this in a very invidious way to trick people. donald trump ought to have known better. but these are the tactics they are using. what is she doing with the government to develop her understanding so we can fight this on all the fronts that affects our communities? >> she is absolutely right. sometimes these far right groups do exactly what she'd said -- she said. they try to hijack our symbols
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and our national days, memorial, remembrance. the best that we can do is call it out and make sure we spread the alternative story about british values. 2 million people have signed a petition of outrage when the president was given an honor that has never been offered to any other president, a red carpet visit to the country in the first month of his office. since then, he has dangerously worldse tension in every causeand confluence -- and conflict that he has engaged in. his finger is on the nuclear about 10. if he comes to this country, he should be treated like anyone else who breaks the law. the government should withdraw the invitation.
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>> i would repeat to the honorable gentleman that we have not made the arrangements for the visit, but the invitation has been extended and has been accepted. >> politics and twitter is a .oxic mix for politicians, tweeting allows the transmission of half formed ideas instead of listening to the developed arguments of others. a meetings people to outrage instead of pause for reflection. can my honorable friend tell the house how politicians taken to resulted in improvements to civilization? >> i think that is slightly behind my capacity today. i would just say that he is right insofar as i think many of us could benefit from a little
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more considered thought and pause for contemplation before pressing respond or reply to twitter attacks. >> it is [indiscernible] important [indiscernible] that- it is important to the messages by the president of the united states are [indiscernible] can i ask the home secretary to further elaborate to prevent such a true and poisonous content? i think the honorable gentleman. from theof the visit president, the invitation has been extended and accepted. i would like to point out, as president of the united states, we have to remember that the
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united states itself has such an important relationship with this country in terms of keeping us safe as well. before we rush to make those urge alli would honorable members to keep that in mind. i hope he has heard this morning tout how seriously we take make sure all is illegal and extreme content is taken down from twitter and other online platforms and that they take more of an active role themselves in making sure this material does not stay up there. attempt, the -- sought to organize a march. nine people showed up, but that is nine to many. there is still work to do to make sure that the views of bdl and britain first do not represent this country and
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disabuse those who hold those views and do more. >> absolutely right. they in no way represent the views of the british people as he and i and the rest of the honorable members know them to be. as has been pointed out in the house today, the real danger of encouraging activity and extremism is increasingly online and that is where we are focusing so much of our effort. in a previous role, the prime minister -- [indiscernible] duke come a, david grand wizard of the ku klux klan, applauded president trump.
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not only has the commander in tweet done this, he has defended it. putting aside the question of a should he even be allowed to enter the country? >> the prime minister has robustly replied to the president and made her views absolutely clear. say we do not routinely comment on individual exclusion. cases -- exclusion cases. stopst because somebody using twitter doesn't mean he stops to be a twit. >> my honorable friend puts his
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finger on the matter in the first half of his comment. must protect the relationship u.s., which does so much to keep british people safe. >> this was not an accident. it was not stupid. it was delivered as intentional. even after the prime minister said he was wrong, he decided to stand by britain first. it is no good saying we are being robust. he is a repeat offender and it will go on and on and on. you cannot stand up to this kind of action. you cannot stand up to horrible racism or perfect -- or
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pretend to do so and invite the men through the front door. was homeprime minister secretary said homophobes and racists will not be allowed in this country. just say it. >> i would say there is no pretense here. we are clear in the action we will take against people who will propagate hate. he should not underestimate the prime minister's views on this and the prime minister's absolute clarity in her comments to him. i won't take any criticism for him on the fact that on this side of the house, this government is committed to the protecting people with religious values.
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thank you for the home secretary for her important work. -- would she agree all leaders have a duty to be language,in their mindful on their social media presence, and that the home secretary hold accounts? yes, the issue of making sure we support communities in their genuine efforts and plans and programs to hold together, despite difficulties that come through, is incredibly important. that. togethernities came
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criticizing were them. must take a firm stance against hate speech and make sure that future generations do. important point. the holocaust educational trust does important work. the children in my schools have been on those trips. it is a very powerful way of remembering the terrible things that happened. and by remembering, by learning, they do not happen again. does the home secretary share
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my astonishment that someone in the position of the president of united states has time trolling through twitter, looking for posts like those he retweeted? and that it reflects badly on his office and undermines the very principles that the united states was founded on? point.mportant which is why the prime minister was so swift and firm in response to his tweet. when i think of muslim children in newcastle, waking up to find themselves being attacked by the president of the most powerful nation on earth, because that is how it will appear to them, then my heart bleeds. however, the 45th president is not accountable to the children of newcastle. the social media giants are
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through the home secretary. so what will the home secretary dude today -- do today? refer gentlelady might her friends in the community to by the honorable secretary of state who made his comments as a muslim. i -- muslims in this country will take comfort in that. . we are taking steps to make sure illegal content is taken down. the relationship with the u.s., which is critical for this house to understand, is critical to making real progress with the online companies. they are american companies. they are based in silicon valley. they are subject to u.s. law.
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if we are going to make real progress with these internet companies, we have to do it in close alliance with our american friends. when the prime minister has her next conversation with the president of the united states, could she convey to him that this hate speech only serves the stir up in my constituency? and will the prime minister conveyed to him that my black, khslim, jewish, and sic constituents feel more fear and alienation and suspicion from other members of the community, and that is why the president will not be welcome in this country because he is
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perpetrating and extending that hate speech. sort of hate she describes, the division sound -- by written first is completely unwelcome here in the u k. we operate in the home office to take down information that can get up and that should not be there. we take down in terms of terrorist content 2000 pieces a week. we are always stepping up to get more information to bind our communities together. like her, i have the same response in my own constituency. our communities will hold together. we up paul all hate crime -- we appall all hate crime. queen,majesty the
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because of her welcome age, has been cutting back on her engagements. she has a royal wedding to look forward to next year and the birth of a new great-grandchild. factorhose facts alone in postponing the president of the united states for at least three years? [laughter] i thank the gentleman for his thoughtful advice. saddened by what trump has done. i have been a great friend of america. emigrated ton, i the united states and cherish my green card. but so many of my friends and relatives have said to me in these last few are as that this
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man -- this land does not speak for america. there is a freedom and liberty and respecting everyone come up their religion or their background. please, as we negotiate this, please stop this man coming on a state visit. if he comes, there will be unparalleled to the past in this country. >> i think the honorable gentleman for his comments. like him, i am a great admirer of america. -- i have friends with differeing views on the president. no dates have been agreed yet. emphasized that what
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the president said on twitter is not what americans feel. is in home secretary charge, rachel -- racial and religious hatred is a crime in this country. has the president of the united states committed a crime? potential crimes as referred to under review. i am not going to comment on any. individual cases i'm sure he can conclude himself of the line between free speech and criminal activity. years ago, i tabled an early day motion calling for banned from the united kingdom based on the divisive
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comments he made at the time. he retracted those comments. it is clear he has not changed. point. the key can the home secretary to make -- whyis so intent on someone is so intent on stirring up hatred is invited to the u.k. for an all expenses paid visit on the backs of the taxpayer? >> the american people, for whom he is the president, the american people, for whom so many people on both sides of the house have said they so much admire, those are the values that i admire, that we have so much in common with. the home secretary will know that [indiscernible] muslims live in peace
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together. explain to my muslim constituents that there is a national interest in inviting this man? >> i have mad the point that he is the american president and we have so much admiration and affection for the american people, that we share values with them in so many different ways, and we are so grateful to their security services, with whom we work so closely, the closeness of that work, the trust between us allow them to help save british lives so effectively. -- have ay we have to close and special relationship with the united states of america. >> taking the charitable view that the president of the united states doesn't know the
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organizationthis whose vile utterances he has endorsed, will she ensure the house that the government will make him well aware of the soracter of his organization he can distance himself with any association with it before there can be any question of him visiting the united kingdom? intention toly our be absolutely clear that the type of organization that he appeared to be promoting in his , iseet is wholly unwelcome is called out.d back in 2010, the now prime
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minister banned [indiscernible] for hisering the u.k. --cceptable they came your and acceptable behavior, particularly his line "all muslims are terrorists." surely the same applies here too president trump with his frequent outputs. muslim awareness month just launched the other day. it means granddad's murdered on the way back from prayers. muslim, does she feel the same as our now prime minister did, excluded for his misogynist lyrics? can we not follow that same
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altogether -- him and ban him altogether. we provided extra money to make sure that mosques can be protected, which is why we mama.e help to tell the prime minister was absolutely right to ban
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. >> the home secretary must see the double standards that she is representing here today by she condemns the actions of the president, but at the she extends an invitation to visit this country. i don't accept that there are double standards. i except we have been totally consistent in making sure we call out hate climbs and take aggressive action in order to stop it. why the prime minister responded so strongly to that tweet and why other cabinet ministers have taken action as well. callll always make sure we it out and take action to stop the vile hate crime that can
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take place. has anyone in the u.k. government asked for these tweets to be taken down? >> [indiscernible] >> can the home secretary answer myvice how to constituents when they ask how we can afford the luxury of a state visit? to ther her constituents strong response that the prime minister responded with. i would ask her to point out why
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this whole relationship with the u.s. is so in her constituents' interest. welain that it is action have shared with the intelligence services in the u.s. that help keep british people safe. we don't want to jeopardize any of that. she shakes her head, but this is an important point, keeping her constituents safe. >> surely, robust response now is to withdraw that invitiation. -- invitation. the first thing is to make sure we work with the major internet companies to get more action taken.
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this is exactly the area where the u.k. has leading internationally. it is the area where the prime minister has been leading at the recent u.n. conference, and the whole house can rely on this government to make sure we do that. we will make sure that they deliver for us. >> i would like to take this opportunity to thank the home secretary and the shadow home secretary for being present on this important occasion. coupled with that, i can


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